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PE: Dealing with a negative feedback

Sat Mar 16, 2013, 12:17 PM


PE: Dealing with a negative feedback


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"To escape criticism - do nothing, say nothing, be nothing."


Elbert Hubbard






Everyone wants to be praised for their work. It's the extremely rare individual who creates things and doesn't care how they're received. Dealing with criticism can be painful, but at the same time enormously helpful.

Let's begin with understanding the function that positive and negative feedback serve. Positive feedback (pointing out things you did WELL) increases commitment to the work you do, by enhancing your experience and your confidence, white Negative feedback (pointing out things you did WRONG), on the other hand, is informative - it tells you where you need to spend your effort, and offers insight into how you might improve.

With that being said, positive and negative feedback are affective and motivate differently, their impact varies from different people at different times. For instance, when you really don't know what you're doing, positive feedback helps you to stay optimistic and feel more at ease with the challenges you are facing - something novices tend to need. But when you are an expert, and you already more-less know what you are doing, it's negative feedback that can help you to do what it takes to get to the top of your game.

Of course, negative feedback should always be accompanied by good advice and given with tact. Starting artists may even give up their art entirely based on too much harsh criticism. But making someone give up their work isn't what criticism is about.

In reality, many people don't understand the difference between criticism of a work of art and criticism of a person, and that's people on both sides of the issue, artists getting offended by legitimate criticism of something they've created, critics crossing the line and criticizing the artist rather than the art.




How to process the feedback, than?


:bulletpurple: LISTEN

Be attentive and listen carefully, this communicates that you value the feedback and ensures you understand the feedback provided.

:bulletpurple: RECEIVE

It is a natural reaction to push back on negative feedback and start preparing a rebuttal. Don't. If you're planning a rebuttal, you're not really being attentive and listening carefully.

:bulletpurple: EXPRESS GRATITUDE

Providing feedback takes efforts and carries a level of risk. Thank everyone who took the time to provide you with feedback.

:bulletpurple: ACT

Ignoring feedback wastes time - yours and time of those that provided you with it. Take appropriate actions on the feedback, as soon as possible.




"I read an article on me once that described my machine-method of silk-screen copying and painting: 'What a bold and audacious solution, what depths of the man are revealed in this solution!' What does that mean?"

Andy Warhol



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khyrkat Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2014   Artisan Crafter
I don't take critiques. Be it positive, negative, whatsoever. I also don't give critiques. This is so slippery thing I'd rather stay away from it. I understand critique is traditionally a part of art world but I take the freedom of thinking my own way. Nevertheless, I respect those who rely on words of people who don't know them, who never talked to them, who never felt like them while painting, who sometimes don't even draw but take the place of god of pencil. Salute.
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mephron Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2013
I just got one of these a few days ago - not even really negative feedback, just "you suck, your work stucks, delete your account". Trolling.

I decided to just ignore it, delete it, and move on. Not worth my trouble. I'm learning. I'm posting my daily sketching because that means I've made myself accountable. If I stop, people can ask me why I stopped and I have to have an answer. This is for me. Maybe not for the world. But for me. And I have had people say good things to me, and give me pointers about stuff I need to work on and how to work on it.

The good people who want to help - and give negative but encouraging feedback, like "your perspective is off, you may want to think about doing this" are a million times more precious than ten thousand trolls telling you that you suck.

That's what I remind myself of.
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jane-beata Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
:clap:
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Madhurupa Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i am going through a phase of negative remark saying that "i am fooling around and giving b/w effect to real pics and telling people that i drew that.." on a particular piece by 2 particular person... i searched her profile and found out that she doesn't draw... and it's really ridiculous (gonna block her! after i give the prove) and today i am going to do that and block her forever... and the most disgusting thing that she reported it.. I am really getting mad at her.. i am not doing any illegal thing then why some people insult... is it because they are jealous... i know its good to be aware of thefts but forcibly making an innocent person a thief is a criminal offense isn't it?
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regularjane Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
A good read :heart:
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DianaGrigore Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2013
Great article. :clap:
So many people need to read this.
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rainsoaked Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Really good article.
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WhiteOkami Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Nice article, clear cut and straight to the point :)
I've been looking to work up the courage to give constructive critique but then I look back at my work and think "Am I really qualified to give pointers?". Properly not yet.
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TheArgoNinja Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Student Digital Artist
"white Negative feedback"

I think you spelled "while" wrong. :V
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:iconfaeorain:
faeorain Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Very good advice, though I'd like to add a bit more emphasis on the distinction between constructive criticism and outright insults. Most of us would know the difference, but sometimes people are still tempted to respond to pure insult. My bit of advice is, if the criticism does not focus on the work and/or offer any advice for improvement, pay no attention to it. For someone who leaves a comment like " you suck "...or " this sucks "....my advice would be to block them and move on, rather than debating anything with them. Debating people like that is useless and will get you nowhere fast. It will only end up in more frustration. For someone to even think of leaving comments like that, it immediately tells you they are not qualified to be critiquing artwork at all, and therefore they are not worth your time.
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Angelles-LaVeau Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Well said! Also, people who comment using words like, "You suck." are looking for an argument or a fight. Silence is golden. If the critique is pointed towards the work and what this person feels could be improved upon, fine. If its just garbage, treat it that way and dump it. :thumbsup:
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:iconhouse-of-kadamon:
House-of-Kadamon Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It is both giving and receiving critique that needs to be acknowledged. I have burned my fingers so badly giving critique, that the person in question actually went out of her way to tarnish my reputation on dA...
As a result I have lost friendships and even had some other artists block me.

Does this stop me from giving critique or doing my best to help artists? Absolutely not. People are welcome to call me a bitch and what not, I care not. By helping others, I help myself. I am far from perfect in my art, and by teaching or showing artists where they are going wrong, I in turn keep my skills sharp and remember my own lessons.
You can gain so much by helping another artist through critique. Eventually you will end up noticing your own mistakes and through accepting critique, you learn and grow.
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BreakNeckViolet Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013   Traditional Artist
Like somebody else already said - telling a person, "hey, you did this well, and I know that part of anatomy can be hard to deal with, but keep going" is pretty awesome. I've had some people use "critique" as an excuse to flat out come up to me and tell me they didn't like my art. I don't think that counts as critique and people shouldn't be misled into thinking they have to flat out accept everything somebody else says about their work -we all know that our work isn't always going to be to the taste of others, right? And we accept that. If you don't like it, you don't have to go out of your way to make the artist feel like shit. Just go find something you -do- like and comment on that. I don't appreciate people telling me that "the lineart looks shaky" when I've already made it public knowledge that I work with a steady shake in my hands, and sometimes it can effect the art I'm producing; so to use that in critique just seems childish to me. The reason I do not accept critique on my work is because I'm hard enough on myself, and because most people use it as a reason to blatantly insult you and then tell you that they're "helping". :/
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fox-orian Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Another interesting piece of infrormation is that once you start reaching a level of professional quality work, you might expect that receiving comments and feedback that seem "unhelpful" or "destructive" (ex: "the face is total shit, do it over") are completely ignored as a kind of thoughtless spam. But really, I'll be the first to admit I even take that feedback to heart.

You've likely heard of the compliment sandwich, a positive observation followed by a criticism followed by a positive thought. This is great for learning artists to understand what they're doing right and wrong while feeling like they're being encouraged and supported. I'll be the first to say sometimes I almost appreciate the brevity or outright bluntness of those comments. I deal with a lot of criticism in my professional work from clients and people I've worked with, so whenever I have my work reviewed, I'm always looking first and foremost for the blunt criticisms on what needs to be done better / fixed. Random mean-sounding comments from someone you don't know might sting a little, but hey, you get cuts and scrapes on your way to becoming an adult.

A destructive comment like the one above can feel completely mean spirited and discouraging, but understand that comments like that aren't ALWAYS someone trolling you, or hating on you. Just as there are people who don't know how to take critique, there are just as many who don't know how to dish it either. Lack of general tact, social skills, vocabulary, whatever it might be, some of them mean well but come off sound like an asshole. It's in your best interest and perceived image to not get mad at them, don't all-out fight back, and don't completely ignore them (even mentally.) Don't even hide their comment if you know it's not legit spam. You don't want to be known as a drama-maker who creates a warzone on your comment threads every time someone says something a little dumb. However tactless a person might be, sometimes you have to concede to the fact that their comment isn't completely worthless.

Just don't let it get you down, is what I mean. If you have the inner doubt that what some destructive commenters have said may be true, don't get sad or mad or depressed. Just do something about it and see it as a point to get better for who else but yourself!

Wow I hope this comment made sense.
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fox-orian Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Also want to add to this that there's nothing wrong with disagreeing with a critical comments toward your work. Know to engage in intellectual debate with the person, not argue and dismiss -- there is a huge difference. Some times there are legitimate reasons why a particular part of your image was done a certain way. That doesn't automatically mean the criticisms toward it are invalid -- not at all. But it's okay to state your case while taking the advice received to thought.

Just definitely know when to lower your A.T. Field and take the your criticisms as something you KNOW needs improvement. Defending your work in denial just to preserve the size of your ego won't get you anywhere. When you find a healthy all-around balance, you'd be amazed at how painfully obvious (and ridiculous) egotistical people suddenly are, and you'll feel like a professional by comparison.
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ssaassasa Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013
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Spudfuzz Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The moment one stops taking critiques is the moment they destroy their present or future career.
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:iconwondersparks:
WonderSparks Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, negative feedback is a rather delicate thing, particularily with budding artists. >w>
I wish I knew what else to say, or I had something of value to add or something, but... nope. Regardless, this is a good article to keep in mind. c:
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:iconhouse-of-kadamon:
House-of-Kadamon Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Your art is crap. It is so crap a three year old can do better.
- I am so kidding. :giggle:
I actually like your art. You are using crayons! I mean, who thinks of that these days?! I love it! :heart:
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:iconwondersparks:
WonderSparks Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconegadplz: Took me by surprise there! ^^;
But yeah, that's the kind of negative feedback that simply isn't helpful. >w< (Not that I haven't recieved a very similar comment before :giggle:)

Oh, thank you~ :dummy: Err... pencil crayons, not crayons, colored pencils. >w> There's a difference. /BRICKED
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:iconhouse-of-kadamon:
House-of-Kadamon Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah the subtle difference. Nevertheless it is still genius. :meow:
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:iconwondersparks:
WonderSparks Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hehe Yeah. >w> I wouldn't call it genius, though; I've been using these things since 6th grade. :dummy:
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:iconhouse-of-kadamon:
House-of-Kadamon Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Still makes you unique. ;)
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:iconwondersparks:
WonderSparks Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I guess you're right. :dummy:
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scarlet-dahlia Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Great article!
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RebornGamerGirl Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Indeed.
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:iconblizzardgraphics:
BlizzardGraphics Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013
Really nice :) Thanks for sharing.
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:iconwilliamrumley:
WilliamRumley Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Always sandwich a piece of negative feedback in between two offers of praise. For instance:

"I really like the colors used in this piece, they make the image 'pop'. Her left hand looks a bit small in relation to her arm. I know hands can be a real bear to draw, so I do appreciate the effort. Overall this is a strong piece and it is going in my favs ^_^"

That statement shows the artist that you looked at the entire piece and it doesn't come across as an attack. And generally, I only give constructive criticism in areas that I am adept at, or if the flaw I see is in direct contrast to the rest of the piece. 9 times out of 10 I get a positive response from the artist.

I love the critique feature offered by DA, as it is separate from the normal comment thread and constructive criticism is *expected* from people who engage in the feature.
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TG-Timmy Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I respect all and any criticism I get, regardless if it's negative or not.

It's like I say, 'Criticism is what makes for the better work.' :)
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LadySeshiiria Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I totally agree with this. Criticism also helps create a competitive personalty. Competition is healthy for prospering in any field of study. Those who oppose criticism or receive it in a negative way and throw it out aside as if you just don't understand or get it. They are selling themselves short. Don't sell yourself short anyone can do anything and it takes courage to listen and to accept the help others offer.
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Luna-Bell07 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Student Writer
I don't consider constructive feedback to be 'your story sucks the big one, rewrite or jump off a cliff', but anything other than immature, poisonous insults works fine for me.
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LadySeshiiria Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That would fall under destructive criticism. A lot of people don't really understand how to make a constructive critique. This is also part of a learning curve in any persons life weather it be art or and other study or even just personal life. Finding ways to communicate can be hard but in the long run will help develop better social skills in the long run.
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autumnmistmeadows Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Student General Artist
Criticism is not bad, it all depends on how you take it. However, if someone is going to critique someone's work they should point what was good and not so good and encourage the artist to do better. The kind of criticism that people should not leave are ones in which they are insulting the artist and telling them that they should stop what they are doing (which is not necessary and just plain mean). It's like what the article says critique the art not the artist. Just because you don't "get it" nor understand that artist's style doesn't make it bad. All in all, I think some criticism is good for everyone, as long as there are good intentions behind it.
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Darkerilussions Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I believe both criticism of a work of art and criticism of a person are the same with some guy called Christian Wenston Chandler lol, just joking (well, not so much.)

Good article! :D
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:iconfrostwindl:
FrostwindL Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Student General Artist
spot on!
i remember that one person who got mad at me for putting a critique in his art, i got an instant block in return.
good constructive criticism are becoming quite rare nowadays, finding one in your art is definitely a lucky find.
the only problem now is to actually make those people realize what they're missing, if we could actually make them read and understand this, that is
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StickeyTheWolf Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Constructive criticism really is rare. All most people say now is:

"Redo that shitty crap, you don't deserve to be here!"

Or something, nothing helpful, just completely disgusting, immature and disrespectful.
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FrostwindL Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Student General Artist
i know right?
thats the main problem of young audience, they're way to immature to interact with serious striving artists.
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:iconstickeythewolf:
StickeyTheWolf Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, they don't pay ANY attention, or they just don't care. Some people may do it out of jealously, and they decide to leave immature comments anyway, without leaving anything constructive. Sometimes there's just one thing, yet they decide to curse the entire artwork.
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FrostwindL Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Student General Artist
you took the words right out of my mouth.
when they put comments like those on mine, i just lol at them.
if they dont wanna learn, fine by me.
they can do it however they want, usually your friends and followers do the job, you know what i mean but when they actually do much and waste my time and effort, it's just the simple click of the block button that does the job.
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StickeyTheWolf Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, but that doesn't stop them doing it to others. They just don't learn.
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FrostwindL Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2013  Student General Artist
well, there's really no other way but to ignore.
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:iconastrikos:
Astrikos Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013   General Artist
Lovely article! :la:
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:iconkuri-osity:
kuri-osity Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is a great article for beginner artists. :)

Now if only someone would write an article that encourages people to leave feedback!

Around dA, I see more people struggling with the quantity of their feedback rather than the quality.
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Pilotslover Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
If I'm honest, I don't critique because people can be complete asses about accepting it.

I used to do it a lot, both here and on Fanfiction.net but people don't seem as accepting now as they once were.
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013
Try #ProjectComment. It's quiet active and any who would want your feedback would be able to do it from there. :)
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Pilotslover Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Thank you for the recommendation, I'll look in to it.
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2013
Welcome. :)
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kuri-osity Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I can understand that completely. There have been several times where I gave (what I hoped) was constructive criticism on deviations that asked for it, and I'd get a bad attitude back in return. It's definitely a gamble of your time and effort. I tread more carefully these days before leaving detailed feedback, and don't give it out as freely as I used to, but I haven't quit yet. For those that don't bite, it's really rewarding to hear them say you've helped. If you ever need feedback, I'd be happy to do a swap, and I promise I take it pretty gracefully. :)
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Pilotslover Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I just find it sad that people can't take a little bit of feedback any more.
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Synthetic--Ecstasy Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I love you for this comment @v@
Feedback is a HARD thing to get around here.
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